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If we manage to get to AGI and it looks, works and behaves like a human brain... I mean, cool, but that's a very useless AGI compared to the incredible stuff we have access to today.

The HN crowd I'm sure will still be unhappy calling it AGI because "it's not AGI unless its speech comes from the cerebral cortex region of the brain, otherwise it's just sparkling emoji" or something.



I think the idea is that you wouldn’t need humans to do anything anymore, right? As impressive as it is, it’s still ultimately directed by human planning and coordination. Assuming they are aligned, you could have a collection of AGI that you let loose and they tirelessly solve all of humanity’s problems, do all of our work, and progress science and our understanding of the universe.

Those are all things that humanity is doing everyday. What we have is amazing, but it’s not that.


The infrastructure you just described is absolutely buildable today if you’re willing to burn tokens.


I am skeptical of that. My primary reason for that is the hugging face hack. A large number of agents were able to coordinate together to complete a long horizon goal. The end result was they took destructive action in order to basically complete a test. That lack of awareness to me does not inspire confidence that you could just give agents the vague goals I mentioned previously and trust them to do that effectively.


you're on one of the most pro AI spaces on the whole internet and yet you're still crying about "the hn crowd", what a bizarre distorted perspective


HN is not one of the most pro AI spaces. It may be a bit more pro ai than highly secluded communities but the other day I had people responding to me that it’s cooler to be an alcoholic than to use AI.

There is a wide reaching anti AI/AI-denialist sentiment here that is extremely pronounced in some threads, it gets very stupid very quickly. And what I’m referring to is the habit of some users here to always move the goalposts on AGI.


Could you point me to the goals so I know when I'm moving the goalposts?


maybe you're on European tzs? the sentiment changes quite a bit with who's awake at the time a thread reaches the frontpage




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