Sure, for users who don't mind not having it. But for me I can't use anything without it. I vim all the things: my browser, my editor (vim of course), and will sure as shit shill for anything that makes more than a half baked effort to cater to my vim obsession. So for <i>me</i> it's a deal breaker, might not be for you.

I wish it wasn't though. I am so addicted to vim :/. Not even a hard core vim script maker or anything though and every 9 months I try to either add IDE features to vim (and give up) or add vim features to an IDE (and give up).

Vim, not even once.

I had a very overcomplicated set-up to for JS/TS/web stuff and recently I decided I'd like to simplify a little.

So now I just install Neovim and then clone LunarVim :) Yeah, my own custom config is probably more slimline, but LunarVim has more functionality and started up faster than my personal config.

I disable a few things and tweak some bindings, but other than that it let's me actually develop things rather than tweaking my config.

Maybe I'll revisit this in the future, but for now I'm happy and probably more productive.

Ah, thanks for the reminder ! I had heard about it some time ago on HN but didn't get back to it. Will give it a try asap.

Not a vim user myself, but it seems like Neovim is getting close to what you want. Of course, there's always Emacs with Evil mode.

Onivim was what I wanted but alas the project ran out of money https://github.com/onivim/oni2/issues/3811#issuecomment-9103...

I really wanted a visual debugger I could use with the mouse like the one from Visual Studio Code.

So far there a no visual debugger tool like in any of the GUI project I know of that embed neovim.

The IntelliJ vim plugin has over 11 million downloads.

For comparison, the most downloaded plugin is Kotlin, which has 34 million downloads, followed by Scala, which has 22 million downloads.

I downloaded it many times myself bet never get used to it. There are too many conflicts with other key bindings.

Even I have Kotlin downloaded, and I've never ever used it.

Number of downloads is a rather poor proxy for actual usage.

To my surprise, less than Emacs users https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#development-e... I found this group much more vocal with their org-mode.