Then the islamic students who we had here for an event 10 years sgo and refused ti eat pork but really liked to drink booze were full of shit when they answered "we are under a roof, god can't see here" when questioned about their drinking
Which Islamic students? One of the most basic tenants of Islam, known to even pre-elementary school children, is that God is Omniscient. If what you're saying is really true, then they're ignorant and/or foolish.
Plus, this doesn't have anything to do with the original topic.
Muslims are real people, with the drives, desires and flaws of real people. The parent comment matches my experience too, my Muslim friends here in Australia will not touch pork at all, but love a bourbon and coke.
And we never denied this. The original argument was that whether or not the religion permits loopholes. If a Muslim chooses not to follow particular teachings of Islam, that's on him, but not because there are "loopholes".
My Muslim friend doesn't practice but claims he still physically can't eat pork (or drink much) without getting sick because he never got used to it. We never tried to confirm this.
